The first thing to understand here is that, banning you for causing problems, solves those problems for us. As a courtesy we offer the ability for people to make unban requests and possibly get a second chance.
However, keep in mind we don't owe you anything and since you being banned means you definitely won't be causing anymore problems on our servers, if we do not feel confident that you will not be a problem in the future, there is 0 benefit for us to unban you. If you make an unban request, you are making a request of us, asking us to go out of our way to help you.
Keep that in mind when considering the tone/content of your request.
That being said, if you are banned but are remorseful/at least willing to accept responsibility and not cause any further problems and would like another chance, you should file an unban request on this section of the forums:(always include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!)
If you decide to post about bans on these public forums or talk about them in the chatroom, etc. then any grief you get, or any information about the ban that ends up public is on you. Don't be surprised when everyone else calls you a racist dirtbag or whatever when your racist rant-filled chatlogs are all posted/pasted in front of everyone. If you don't want to be thought of in that way, your best bet isn't to act that way in the first place.
How Long Does a Ban Protest Take?
Ban protests are gone through by ubanning admins (currently Octo, Jib, Crap, Tara, Haley) when they have the time and may also involve contacting the original banning admin to talk about the ban, get full details, get their opinion on an unban, etc. This means it could take quite a while for your protest to be reviewed. Please note that lying, failing to provide the necessary information (STEAM ID!!!), being belligerent, rude, impatient or otherwise making things unnecessarily complicated will make the process longer.
In general unban requests for actual rule violations can take 1 month or more
, since in these cases people are banned because they have done something wrong, this is considered a sort of cooling off period/temp ban. If you don't like waiting for an unban, the best bet is to not break the rules and get banned in the first place
Unbans for mistakes, shared IPs (excluding proxies and other cases where the ban results from unusual behavior by the user or is complex or complicated by the above lying/belligerence, etc.) other extenuating circumstances which are not the fault of the user/player will generally be given a higher priority but are still subject to the availability of the unbanning admins.
In short, the answer is: As long as they take, there's no set schedule, but generally they often take over a month
.Will I Get a Reply to My Protest?
Most likely. If there is something requiring a reply. If your protest is just nonsense or you bitching at us or any of the stuff listed below, then it might just be ignored. It may take time, as noted above, but generally we reply to everything. MAKE SURE TO READ THE REST OF THIS POST BEFORE FILING A PROTEST/UNBAN REQUEST!
If a person gives enough of a shit that they ask to be unbanned in a nice way, they have a good chance of being unbanned (depending on the reason for the original ban), and most people stay unbanned if they curb the disruptive behavior.
When Disputing a Ban(always include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!)(always include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!)(always include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!)(always include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!)
Starting a ban dispute with a negative attitude will not help your cause.
If you're banned, please think through your message before disputing the ban.
We try to be reasonable people most of the time, but we see Newbs as a place where people go to have fun, and it is the job of the admins to stop assholes from ruining that fun. We often give people second (and sometimes even third) chances, as long as they are sincere in their desire not to be assholes.
Admins issue permanent bans because they do not believe the person has any intention of being a nice, well behaved member of the community or a positive Newbs player. If an admin asks or tells you to stop doing something or issues you a warning, take the hint. Also realize admins are not required to give warnings
. Our server rules are posted on the MOTD chalkboard screen which shows up every time someone joins our servers and can also be found here:http://www.tf2newbs.com/forum/index.php/board,58.0.htmlIt's your responsibility to read the rules
, not ours to inform every player individually of each rule.
Mistakes can happen and we can be lenient and give people second chances, but starting a ban dispute by screaming about "admin abuse", being rude, attacking the admin(s), servers or community or just generally being a shithead, reduces the odds of your being unbanned to pretty much 0.
Arguments, phrases etc. that will practically guarantee you stay banned
Freedom of speech
The TF2 characters say bad things too!
It's an M rated game!
X did/said Y first!
I didn't know that being a complete and utter asshole that no one wants to spend time with was against the rules!
Remember, you were banned because you broke the rules (except in the very, very rare
case of a mistake) and you are asking us to take time out of our day to help you/unban you. There is 0 benefit for us in unbanning someone who broke our rules and got banned, so if you can't manage to not give us shit or give us a hard time while trying to get unbanned we're much less likely to feel inclined to waste our time
to unban you.Try taking responsibility for your actions
, apologizing and making us feel confident that you won't do whatever it was that got you banned in the first place or anything else to get you rebanned in the future if you want to be unbanned.Regarding "Admin Abuse" in Particular
If an admin turns on god mode or noclip, that's admin abuse.
If you're being a shithead and an admin asks or tells you to stop, silences, kicks or bans you, it is not admin abuse, it's them doing what they are expected to do and you suffering the consequences of your own stupidity.
If you think the admins here are abusive, leave and play somewhere else - I'm sure you'll learn what real abusive admins are like.
We don't sell admin - anyone with admin was appointed admin - and if they are found to have actually used their admin abilities to "cheat", then they are reprimanded. If you don't like something an admin does or says, talk to Octo on steam chat. If you talk about it in game, argue or talk back to an admin, attempt to troll or harass an admin or are otherwise a disruption, you'll probably catch the boot.
And once again:always include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!
If you do not include a link to your steam profile or a steam id, we have no idea who you are and at most you will get a reply asking you for this info, or your post may just be ignored, make sure toalways include your steam id or a link to your steam profile!
Seriously, going forward improper requests or requests made that show the person didn't bother to read this at all will be ignored/denied. It is your responsibility to provide us with information needed.
Vouching for a banned person
If (and this is a big if) , you are not the person who was banned, but you want to help a friend get unbanned, you may attempt to vouch for the banned player to help them get unbanned.
If accepted, the player will be unbanned, however, if the individual continues to be a problem, not only will they be rebanned, the person who vouched for them will be banned as well
You should only vouch for someone if you feel 100% confident that they are not going to screw up or cause problems again. This is not intended as a get out of jail free card with no consequences and should be taken very seriously.